Circles Off - Ep 145 Alan Boston

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hagrinBPR Review Date: 2024-03-15 04:50:05
Rating: 7.75

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Right into the interview, no nine minute preamble.

Alan is a quote MACHINE in this pod.

Alan is anti-ChatGPT and I'm already laughing.
"I've probably retired / unretired 10 times."
3:15 - "Here I am dead broke betting sports how good is this."
3:40 - "The industry sucks."
4:40 - Billy Walters contacts him in 1991-92 "he calls me at 9am and I was probably drunk or coked up from the night before." "I didn't like the guy so I tried to come up with the sleaziest place to meet which I am sure is still a craphole now."
6:00 - Negotiates a 12k a game freeroll meanwhile he was betting $500+ a game only. "Billy says how about 10, I say I'm not here to bargain and he goes okay you have a deal."
9:40 - Worked with Billy for 15 years. "I'm in Maine having dinner with a young lady ... which might surprise some."
11:00 - 1988, house gets raided "but I knew they were coming so I cleaned it out ... haha" was working for a bookmaker "and there was coke in the house which could have been bad I had some coke I hid in a tire that I forgot about" I'm dying laughing here. Case gets dismissed but goes to Vegas to get out of Maine because "the cops were going to plant stuff". Starts doing power ratings for NCAAF.
15:45 - Went to UPenn, Alan Boston Ivy League man!
16:55 - Reads the book The Handicapper by Robert Kalich. "And I think in the aspect I have succeeded, I kind of think I'm a failure in life, but in that aspect I succeeded."
20:30 - Worked for Howie Levenson in Boston who was a bookmaker "who ended up in the Witness Protection program anyways".
21:55 - Hysterical that Rob and Johnny don't know "what the original Mr Coffee" is. You youngins.
22:20 - "I thought the BW interview on Rogan was terrible."
24:05 - Do you think BW still wins? "Absolutely."

25:00 - We do 4 minutes on the BW "7 points off SB" comment and he has "no reason to lie". Not saying the discussion is bad or whatever, but the MUCH better example was BW saying on a different interview that the KC/SF line was 4 points off, but *he hadn't bet it yet*. BW doesn't speak a lot, but BW absolutely makes sure he gets the info *he* wants out there, the truth is absolutely secondary. Welcome to the human condition.

31:25 - "What happens in my pea brain here, it ends up right" when talking about his edge in the face of technology. Talks about very dire circumstances this year, he says this is the best work he's done. HFA has drastically changed during his betting career. 2016-17 he found he was betting too many home teams. (Sidenote - good exercise for all betters, drill down into your bet log to look for leaks).

36:20 - "I did really well for a long time. $80 in my pocket when I got to Vegas. Built my own $3.1 million dollar home, drove a Ferrari so I did something right." Paid 62.5-63, bought it on Ebay, 1995 348 Spider. Rob and Johnny don't know what a tweeter is?
38:00 - "I never wanted a wife or kids, nor do I think they're useful - a wife can clearly be useful. Don't take it literally geniuses." I'm cackling here.

42:35 - "There's no one conveying good sports betting content on the internet ... like the Sports Action Network is a fcking joke ... and if they're buddies of yours sorry." Incredible.
45:00 - "The goal of the sports bettor is to hide what he does." re: CLV. (Sidenote - what Rob calls "operations" during this conversation, I call "Information Warfare" and one of these days I will finish that article).
50:25 - "There was a respect in the industry that doesn't exist now. These whores now CRIS opens the line for $250, they bet it 3 times."
54:00 - Alan crushing Fanatics and Fanduel and we respond with ... a Pinnacle read.
1:03:45 - "What do you mean 'they were dumping 1st halves?'" Sigh.
1:04:55 - "It wasn't that insane, but it still happens." "Not this late in the year BRO." Haha dying. The next 3 minutes are a Tour de Force let me tell you my word. Wow.
1:09:00 - People in Alan's comments complaining that his winning picks don't have good write-ups. "Well fine you do it then, fck you! So I said f you no more picks!" Preach Alan, you should see the comments this account gets.
Alan then goes on his annual the seeding and bracketing screws over the mid-majors which I'm pretty sure we've all heard before.
"Joe "Fraudnardi". Then says "promolgate" and I'm dying laughing he's one of a kind folks.

1:22:45 - Plus EV move of the week - “hang out with a dog, ive always wanted to hang out with a bear.” Hahah.
1:25:55 - I had an epiphany 13 years ago - “You can live life happy or live life sad.” “This saved my life from a life of total misery.”

“Negative EV? That’s easy - the government. And poachers.”

I’m spent. What a ride.